The first thing I would ask is the student's grade level? Next, what prompted you to give the student the Phonics Inventory? Dee, Ask Dee at the READ 180 Community
I have the same question for several of my fourth and fifth grade students. Is there a recommended SRI lexile level to help determine if a student should be placed in System 44 vs. Read 180 software? To answer your second question you asked of aheemstr, I gave the Phonics Inventory to my new students in order to gather baseline. I discovered many scored at the beginning level 0-10. I took into consideration that the computerized tests were very new to my incoming students. I retested 9 weeks
ecrompton, for elementary students, I would give the Phonics Inventory to students scoring 400 Lexiles or below on the Reading Inventory. If I suspected decoding difficulties with students scoring at higher levels, I would give it to them as well to see if my suspicions were accurate. I would not give it as a test to all students. Sometimes, I fear that students who can really decode might choose not to do well or simply "blow off" the test because it is so easy for them. (1 of 2) Dee
ecrompton, your idea of re-testing the students for whom you doubted the results is not a bad idea. I just wouldn't use it for all students. If I had a new student who scored at higher Lexile levels who seemed to struggle with decoding as the year progressed, I might give that student the Phonics Inventory to see if that was really the issue. I'd certainly explain to the student the purpose of giving that test then. (2 of 2) Dee, Ask Dee at the READ 180 Community
I wonder if some of these students have dyslexia and have just memorized lots of words. I have read about stealth dyslexia where really bright students "hide" their decoding difficulties by working super hard to memorize all words like the irregular sight words. These students can be exhausted by reading even though they can score higher than one would expect for a student with decoding difficulties.
I, too, am interested on how to work with these students. It is a shame that the Fluency Zone in Universal does not use systematic, cumulative instruction in spelling and decoding, where the rules of English are taught and built upon. It would be less frustrating for students and be aligned with what researchers say aligns with how the brain learns to read (see Reading in the Brain: The Science and Evolution of a Human Invention by Stanislas Dehaene, 2009).
READ 180 is not designed for students who need the intensive practice needed for beginning decoders. It is more appropriate for striving or strugglers readers. System 44 is a more appropriate placement if it has been determined that the students are struggling decoders. It is quite possible that the high schoolers are memorizing words, or, as some I have encountered, looking at the first letter of words and guessing. Dee, Ask Dee at the READ 180 Community
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